Holiness and Justice: What’s the difference?

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4 responses to “Holiness and Justice: What’s the difference?”

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   verena gill

   January 6, 2015

   this article helped me to understand what the catechism was explaining. thank you.

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   Igor

   August 9, 2015

   I struggle to understand this. Original Holiness seems to me to be a meaningless idea that relies upon another meaningless idea called sanctifying grace. I am none the wiser.

   I would be grateful if this could be explained in terms of the real world, that is the world in which we live. If I sound a bit off it is because of my frustration at the lack of clarity that comes with these ideas. rgds, igor..

   btw, Paul can say whatever he likes, but to me he is no more than a self-proclaimed apostle for which there is no verification. Anybody can make such a claim if verfication is not required or available. As for the Catechism, the CC can say whatrever it likes but unsubstantiated assertions are just that. Why anybody takes any notice is beyond my comprehension..

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      Kevin Aldrich

      August 23, 2015

      Igor, I find Original Holiness (which basically means friendship with God, ourselves, other persons, and the natural world) to be very meaningful to explain my own experience of life, but the concept itself is revealed not readily apparent to reason. On the other hand, we all know that things are not right with the world and our lives. Why are we not happy or at least resigned to the way things are? I tried to write about all there here: https://www.doctrinalhomilyoutlines.com/2014/03/problem-gift-self/

      As for your lack of “comprehension” why anyone takes any notice, you could check out the website Strange Notions and look especially at the comments of Ye Old Statistician.

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         igor

         March 18, 2020

         Thanks for your reply. I have looked a bit more at this.

         CCC 375 does not state that “Adam and Eve shared in God’s own life through sanctifying grace”. It states only that the “grace of original holiness was to share in … divine life”. This is referenced to Lumen Gentium Ch 1.2 that was written in 1964 by Pope Paul VI, but there seems to be little prior to that – the Council of Trent session 5.1 refers to original holiness, but not in any detail.

         Your references to sanctifying grace and being adopted children of God seem to lack a source other than your assertion. Can you please provide the specific source for these?

         In any case, the Genesis 3 Garden of Eden story contains none of this, so would you agree that we have a case of later theology being overlaid on a fictional story? If not fictional, then what?

         And I am perplexed by the comment in CCC 375 “interpreting the symbolism of biblical language in an authentic way”.

         And again, I would not take notice of Eph 4:24 – this is not one of the seven genuine letters of Paul, so its authority is uncertain.

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